I would be tempted to sand and oil the peg hangers and reuse them. Looking for a tandem canoe for a couple in our mid-fifties. In rough water a more rounded hull is better. Inspiring paddlesports participation through quality coverage of the people, places, adventures, boats and gear, trends and events that make paddling something you'll do for the rest of your life. I may see one in person which is Mad River Explorer and they say dark green. The T-Formex Remake. Mad River Mad River Model Produced Model Produced Adventure 14 2006-2008 Explorer 14 TT 2003-2010 . Glad I'm not the only one needing to dig into old documents to find answers. The equally attractive carbon fiber version is an airy 40 pounds. This ID# is MADSR921C494. Looking for a tandem canoe for a couple in our mid-fifties. My little Blackhawk tandem performs well even against modern hulls and I think your boat would just run away from my Blackhawk. My wife loves the Camper because its initial stability is so good. The kevlar PVC version was sometimes billed as Kevlar H (for Hybrid). Nice canoe. (all the Campers Ive seen had flat web or cane seats), OT Discovery 174 - tough and durable but too heavy. Rob, Mad River Serial NumberThanks for the responses. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Looks like a beautiful canoe. Quebec-based canoe manufacturer Esquif produces T-Formex and builds this iteration of the Explorer. Thanks again everyone for the information. Camper is a similar but better choice. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. The composite editions of the Explorer are much lighter, at 44 pounds for the Kevlar Fusion and 40 for the carbonversion. Only the SR921 is not strictly defined by the coast guard. If youre keen on a solo canoe shorter than 12 feet or a canoe for less than $1,500, consider an Old Town. Really closer to 45 is ideal (and for the lucky among us Savage River makes full carbon boats in the low 30s!). color obviously not a factor in performance, but if the wife likes it, its certainly a plus I will go cyber shopping sometime soon. New listings: mad river canoe - $750 (GORE), 17 FOOT Mad River ME Solo Whitewater Canoe - $750 (Albuquerque) People recognize this and increase the price of used boats when demand is high. Asking $700 for it. For the prior weight attempt I simply held the canoe on my haunches but in thinking over this method I can imagine how that arrangement could've registered a lighter weight given I was somewhat off balance. You can find some information about discontinued Mad River canoe models on their website. Prices are subject to change without notice. Thank you for the comments. Mad River Model Produced Sunrunner KH 1996-1997 Sunrunner KL 1994 Synergy RX 1996-2000 Yes it is an Explorer. Id suggest youd be best off with flat web/cane seats than molded uni-directional seats so you can paddle solo from the bow seat facing backwards to bring your solo paddler weight closer to the middle of the canoe. Thanks again guys. Is that the measurement you meant? It may be a little lighter than the Camper but Id expect it to be in the low 50s. You must log in or register to reply here. It also looks like perfect paddling weather today. The winters are long here and the state owes me a property tax refund so??? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. by openboat Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:01 pm, Post We want to replace the original seats with ash/webbing seats as the cane is badly broken in both seats. You may still find some of last years models in shops, and decades worth of canoes on the used market. 3/4 . With similarly nice weather the last few days I am really starting. Scored this on craigslist for free! The one I have is an Explorer Royalex with wood gunwales and deep red (chianti?) Yes, definitely having fun with this current obsession. View our answers to common questions below. What I can't figure out is what our model is. CL. Wood trim likely needs some work with previous repairs showing up. Malecite KL 1993-2001 Sunrunner FG 1994-1997 Malecite Special Edition 2001 Sunrunner KE 1994-1996. Also, FYI I just sent Confluence scans of my 1976 and 1977 MRC catalogs which I recently located. Mad River Canoe's Explorer 16 Length: 16 ft 3 in Width: 35 in Depth: 15 in Weight: 44 lbs Capacity: 1,100 lbs MSRP: $3,399 USD / $4,349 CAD madrivercanoe.com. I am really looking for the same age Explorer in the same deep red color or other non red (cherry) or standard green. These are reliable canoes for beginner and intermediate paddlers. It was conceived as a replacement for Royalex, long considered the gold standard for bombproof canoes. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bowstern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. When I redid the cane on a boat recently I used a kit from Ed's which is a bit pricey but worked great, the wedges were helpful. Prior to that time, MRC #'s identify model, material, month and year, but not color Plastic seats with aluminum struts between gunwales for seats (looks like the rivets for the seats go through the hull on the sides). Introducing the new Explorer 16. 6,613 were here. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great boat for touring midwestern rivers and lakes. 3/4 . KE boats are not listed till the 2000 catalog so am wondering if marketing came up with that name to sexy-up the standard KV build?? A Mad River is a good option if youre looking for a no-nonsense, high-quality canoe. They were all nice boats, just never caught on out West. The Sunrunner could handle any kind of weather. No wood rot. Thanks - that one was just out of my search area that I used - added another 50 miles and now I see it. For more tips on what to look for when selecting a used canoe, read our article How To Buy A Used Canoe. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thanks for the tips on the potential of adding weight. Congrats! The gunwales are square. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. by pblanc Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:43 pm, Post It is not longer present - no trace. Beyond the ABS is a proprietary abrasion-resistant outer layer. Bell Morningstar, 15'6'', 40 pound canoe. DarnMy search for a good deal on a tripping canoe continues. It is a very high quality boat, built back in the day when Mad River Canoe was one of the premier composite canoe builders, if not the premier maker. Experience Mad River Canoe. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Note the raised section does not follow the paint line however so not pointed ends like a football. Both have a good reputation for durability. Was stored in a gara Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (Lexington), Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield), 16' Mad River Explorer Canoe - $400 (WHIDBEY ISLAND). Granted my HIIN states '94 but??? JavaScript is disabled. I'll be interested in what you find out when you get out of the phone queue. A glass boat is unlikely to weigh 6 lbs less than specs, and a Kevlar lay up might well weigh 6 lbs more than spec, especially a Kevlar Expedition model. Mad River Canoe Kevlar Explorer 1992. The polyethylene canoes are built in Greenville, South Carolina, in a factory managed by Mad Rivers parent company, Confluence Outdoors. The "Boats By Year" guide was made at least as late as 2011 so this could make sense. I've got a Kevlar Explorer - there is a KA suffix on mine and it does have the Airex foam layers, which reinforces that idea. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. The versatile canoe for getting started; great for sportsmen and families, the Adventure 16 is an amazing value. There is little worry about capsizing in calm conditions with the Adventure's wide, flat hull. I cant comment on the last 2 boats. One last twistThe '97 catalog has nice exploded assembly illustrations of the lay-ups and in simply looking at the boat I would think it most resembles the KH build for three reasons. for sale. Archived Catalogs. 2010. Don't know of any manufacturer who uses a k for kevlar. No wood rot. Multiple emails sent as the way to contact in the ad - hope it isnt sold. Im tempted to pop over from SW Michigan to buy it just on principle. We have tooling for many more products than are offered here, such as Special Editions and retired models. I can sure relate to leaving the natural wood color too. When looking at a used canoe, check the wooden gunwales for any signs of cracking or rot. No doubt it is well made but being mid 40's forces me to consider weight. The yoke certainly looks like oak. The Adventures are express tickets to the enjoyment of canoeing. Mad River's Adventure is their recreational canoe, and it's available in two sizes, 14 and 16 feet. I am looking at some craiglist canoes this weekend. On the underside of the bow deckplate is written the hull ID number so I would imagine these are original. No wood rot. This one. My next question is with this boat in pretty much like new paddling shape what is it worth? No wood rot. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. Would a glass lay-up have a raised floor? No wood rot. You probably have access to a number of other brands there in WI, but these brands you listed are some of the most common across the country (aside from Coleman and Pelican, which I wouldnt recommend for you), so youre likely to get good feedback. Figured this was good as anything even if the scale is off 5 lbs being the weight difference should be more-or-less accurate. Looking for discontinued models or older catalogs? Have not looked yet. Old Town makes wide, stable polyethylene canoes for solo and tandem paddling. Get Started. Do not email or textyou MUST call 410 610 5653, 2005 Hand Made, Custom Built, Wood Strip Modified Adirondack Guide Boat. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. 3/8 . Ive never paddled a Sunrunner but they have a solid reputation. The company was born shortly after the founder, Jim Henry, won the 1971 U.S. National Open Canoe Championship in his hand-built canoe. Your boat looks like new or maybe better. The Kevlar/Airex Explorer also had an outer layer of S 'glass under the gel coat which was nice. If the humidity ever drops so the oil can completely dry, I hope to get it out on the water for a test drive yet this fall. If its lightly used as the ad says then its a great deal. Mad River - Freedom Canoe. Soon to be floating on a river near you. Its a model thats well suited for a specific niche, but that seems to be your niche. The Kevlar Fusion weighs 44 pounds. I realize this thread is at least 4 years old, but I am a new comer to the forum who found this thread to be the closest thing to helping me decipher the serial number to a new/old canoe I just bought used. It's green Royalex with wood gunnels, cane insert seats and is 16 feet long. The cboats discussion speaks of kevlar airex boats having a raised football-shape on the floor which this doessort of. Agreed on the weighing difficulties but I have been to Wisconsin a time or two and have seen individuals in bars sporting Sheboygan Goiters that must've been darn close to a 16ft cantilever. Like Mad River, they are extremely affordable. Fully featured and loaded with amenities, they're also very stable and paddle quite efficien. Recently picked this beauty up for a song. I like the sundowner a lot for a daycruiser, but the sunrunner would be my choice because its around 55lbs as opposed to the downers 65lbs. There are some design aspects that you might overlook in a photo that can drastically affect your paddling experience. KE boats are not listed till the 2000 catalog so am wondering if marketing came up with that name to sexy-up the standard KV build?? You must log in or register to reply here. Canoes hold their value exceptionally well. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Wenona Sundowner is a nice model from a respected brand. The serial number was put on the royalex hull using a black marker. If I again come up with 60 lbs then who knows. I am curious about the "A" appended to the end of the HIN. Mad River Explorer 16 Canoe. Especially being a somewhat heavy boat when propping the nose on the ground to shoulder. Thanks for buying that boat. in color. The seat hanger pegs do look different at first glance however I believe them to be the same wood as the seat frames, just not varnished. and was too advaced for the average paddler. The Journey has a minimal rocker, making it track (move straight) much better than the Explorer. I would also consider other manufacturers with wood gunwales if equal to the Explorer - Penobscot? Mad River Sunrunner - Kevlar with cane seats and wood gunwales and is a 1998. I don't blame you a bit for going after that other boat since it looks to be a fine boat at a great price. I plan to dark stain the gunwales and decks and then Exterior Watco them unless they still make Gunwale Guard. . Instead got the bathroom scale out again and weighed myself and then me with shouldered canoe and did the math. account. Ive had a Bell Morningstar RX and its a great boat. id old mad riverMAD99584M80G-K 18 foot wicker seats with backs. The Mad River is 1998 (seems like they made that model for a short time - 2 years? 3/4 . MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. Also, any other info you HIN geeks can provide would be awesome. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17`2 touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Mad Rivers archive list tells what years each of the models were produced but that only narrows down the options to the canoes manufactured in 1997(of which there are several) but doesnt get us to our specific model. They are comparable to other popular canoe companies, like Nova Craft or Esquif. Whether you're interested in canoe touring, tripping or an afternoon of fishing, getting YOU time is as easy as ever. no favorites. If youre ready to start shopping, follow the links below to view Mad River canoes in our Paddling Buyers Guide. Timeless and Rugged. Last week I did contact Confluence/MR tech support for PDFs of MR catalogs from '95 - 2000 as I already had the '94. Well, it is done enough for now. The "Boats By Year" guide was made at least as late as 2011 so this could make sense. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. ); Old Town is 1996 and the Wenonah is from 1991. Prices and availability may vary between country and retailers due to VAT and other taxes. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. 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